Buck: Congrats on the new house!! I would target from mid October on...just like you said, all depends on water temps. On a normal year here the fishing can be great in November...just depends on when ol man winter decides to come down from the north. By the way, Docs new boat should do fine here.....and not sure if you meant drive his boat or his vehicle....I think you should drive the vehicle...at least in launch and recovery..:rollin